I got the data from Fangraphs and looked at all seasons since 1900. Someone mentioned Carl Lundgren on Twitter and in 1907 he had a 1.17 ERA and a 2.70 FIP (BBRef has 2.73). That seems like a big difference. So I wondered what would be the largest.
Table 1 below has the top 25 in what we could call good luck. Guys who had an ERA below their FIP. I did 26 because there was a tie for 25th.
Table 1
Rank |
Name |
Season |
ERA |
FIP |
FIP - ERA |
1 |
Sammy Stewart |
1981 |
2.32 |
4.11 |
1.79 |
2 |
Steve Trachsel |
1996 |
3.03 |
4.81 |
1.78 |
3 |
Hal McKain |
1929 |
3.65 |
5.37 |
1.72 |
4 |
Bump Hadley |
1939 |
2.98 |
4.69 |
1.71 |
5 |
Steve Swetonic |
1932 |
2.82 |
4.43 |
1.61 |
6 |
Ryan Franklin |
2003 |
3.57 |
5.17 |
1.6 |
7 |
Elmer Dessens |
2002 |
3.03 |
4.61 |
1.58 |
8 |
Tim Wakefield |
1995 |
2.95 |
4.53 |
1.58 |
9 |
Dakota Hudson |
2019 |
3.35 |
4.93 |
1.58 |
10 |
John Candelaria |
1977 |
2.34 |
3.9 |
1.56 |
11 |
Al Leiter |
2004 |
3.21 |
4.76 |
1.55 |
12 |
Carl Lundgren |
1907 |
1.17 |
2.7 |
1.53 |
13 |
Bucky Walters |
1939 |
2.29 |
3.81 |
1.52 |
14 |
Doug Fister |
2014 |
2.41 |
3.93 |
1.52 |
15 |
Jeremy Hellickson |
2012 |
3.1 |
4.6 |
1.5 |
16 |
Jeremy Hellickson |
2011 |
2.95 |
4.44 |
1.49 |
17 |
Pat Mahomes |
1994 |
4.73 |
6.21 |
1.48 |
18 |
Gene Bearden |
1948 |
2.43 |
3.89 |
1.46 |
19 |
Rickey Clark |
1967 |
2.59 |
4.02 |
1.43 |
20 |
Ted Lyons |
1935 |
3.02 |
4.44 |
1.42 |
21 |
Rip Collins |
1929 |
4 |
5.42 |
1.42 |
22 |
Charlie Wagner |
1941 |
3.07 |
4.47 |
1.4 |
23 |
J.A. Happ |
2009 |
2.93 |
4.33 |
1.4 |
24 |
Jim Turner |
1937 |
2.38 |
3.77 |
1.39 |
25 |
Jerry Ujdur |
1982 |
3.69 |
5.08 |
1.39 |
26 |
Lance Lynn |
2017 |
3.43 |
4.82 |
1.39 |
So Lundgren is fairly high at number 12. Now for the guys who had an ERA higher than their FIP ERA. This is Table 2.
Table 2
Rank |
Name |
Season |
ERA |
FIP |
FIP - ERA |
1 |
Jack Knott |
1936 |
7.29 |
5.16 |
-2.13 |
2 |
George Caster |
1940 |
6.56 |
4.52 |
-2.04 |
3 |
Hub Pruett |
1927 |
6.05 |
4.11 |
-1.94 |
4 |
Chris Bosio |
1987 |
5.24 |
3.38 |
-1.86 |
5 |
John Burkett |
1998 |
5.68 |
3.89 |
-1.79 |
6 |
Joe Oeschger |
1923 |
5.68 |
3.91 |
-1.77 |
7 |
Bert Blyleven |
1988 |
5.43 |
3.66 |
-1.77 |
8 |
Ernie Wingard |
1927 |
6.56 |
4.8 |
-1.76 |
9 |
Bobo Newsom |
1942 |
4.73 |
2.99 |
-1.74 |
10 |
Ricky Nolasco |
2009 |
5.06 |
3.35 |
-1.71 |
11 |
Early Wynn |
1942 |
5.12 |
3.42 |
-1.7 |
12 |
Jack Lamabe |
1964 |
5.89 |
4.21 |
-1.68 |
13 |
Pol Perritt |
1913 |
5.25 |
3.59 |
-1.66 |
14 |
Rick Wise |
1968 |
4.55 |
2.89 |
-1.66 |
15 |
Dan Griner |
1913 |
5.08 |
3.43 |
-1.65 |
16 |
Elmer Myers |
1917 |
4.42 |
2.77 |
-1.65 |
17 |
Bill Sherdel |
1929 |
5.93 |
4.31 |
-1.62 |
18 |
Henry Keupper |
1914 |
4.27 |
2.65 |
-1.62 |
19 |
Bob Rhoads |
1903 |
4.76 |
3.16 |
-1.6 |
20 |
Les Sweetland |
1930 |
7.71 |
6.11 |
-1.6 |
21 |
Gene Wright |
1903 |
4.98 |
3.39 |
-1.59 |
22 |
Chief Bender |
1915 |
3.99 |
2.4 |
-1.59 |
23 |
Dick Ruthven |
1981 |
5.15 |
3.56 |
-1.59 |
24 |
Claude Willoughby |
1926 |
5.95 |
4.37 |
-1.58 |
25 |
Jaime Navarro |
1997 |
5.79 |
4.21 |
-1.58 |
Then I looked at what might account for these differences, both positive and negative. I looked at the batting average and slugging percentage these pitchers allowed with both no runners on base (None) and with runners on base (ROB). From casual observation, it often seems like pitchers that have extreme differences between their ERA and their FIP ERA also have extreme differences between what they do in None and ROB situations.
Also, their fielders may have affected their numbers. So I will later look at the Defensive Efficiency Rating of their teams. DER is the percentage of balls in play that are turned into outs
Table 3 below shows the AVG & SLG for the top 10 from Table 1 in both None and ROB situations. This data comes from BB Ref. as well as the DER data.
Table 3
Name |
Season |
None AVG |
ROB AVG |
None SLG |
ROB SLG |
Sammy Stewart |
1981 |
0.224 |
0.226 |
0.319 |
0.296 |
Steve Trachsel |
1996 |
0.257 |
0.203 |
0.488 |
0.294 |
Hal McKain |
1929 |
0.294 |
0.252 |
0.404 |
0.367 |
Bump Hadley |
1939 |
0.253 |
0.221 |
0.358 |
0.319 |
Steve Swetonic |
1932 |
0.237 |
0.217 |
0.353 |
0.316 |
Ryan Franklin |
2003 |
0.248 |
0.255 |
0.415 |
0.417 |
Elmer Dessens |
2002 |
0.255 |
0.261 |
0.392 |
0.458 |
Tim Wakefield |
1995 |
0.241 |
0.209 |
0.407 |
0.321 |
Dakota Hudson |
2019 |
0.253 |
0.234 |
0.435 |
0.356 |
John Candelaria |
1977 |
0.254 |
0.192 |
0.454 |
0.245 |
Most of these guys did much better in ROB cases. But not Stewart, Franklin or Dessens.
Table 4 below shows the DER of their teams in the given year and what the league average was (I am not sure the context of the league average helps explain anything).
Table 4
Name |
Season |
Team DER |
Lg. AVG |
Sammy Stewart |
1981 |
0.710 |
0.711 |
Steve Trachsel |
1996 |
0.702 |
0.687 |
Hal McKain |
1929 |
0.696 |
0.687 |
Bump Hadley |
1939 |
0.730 |
0.687 |
Steve Swetonic |
1932 |
0.702 |
0.691 |
Ryan Franklin |
2003 |
0.721 |
0.694 |
Elmer Dessens |
2002 |
0.690 |
0.695 |
Tim Wakefield |
1995 |
0.682 |
0.690 |
Dakota Hudson |
2019 |
0.706 |
0.689 |
John Candelaria |
1977 |
0.711 |
0.698 |
Stewart and Franklin were on teams with fairly high DERs. So although they did not do any better in ROB cases, maybe the good fielding behind them explains their low FIP ERAs. But that is not the case for Dessens.
The following guys are the leaders in multiple seasons with an ERA at least 1 lower than their FIP ERA.
Tom Glavine 4
Bob Buhl 3
Bucky Walters 3
There were many with 2 such seasons. But none of the guys from the top 10 seasons are on this short list of 3 here. At most they could have had 2 such seasons, so they did not make a habit of it. I will look at these 3 guys later. Also, for guys who had an ERA at least 1 higher than their FIP ERA, no one did it more than twice.
Table 5 below shows the AVG & SLG for the top 10 from Table 2 in both None and ROB situations.
Table 5
Name |
Season |
None AVG |
ROB AVG |
None SLG |
ROB SLG |
Jack Knott |
1936 |
0.305 |
0.348 |
0.419 |
0.512 |
George Caster |
1940 |
0.325 |
0.303 |
0.525 |
0.466 |
Hub Pruett |
1927 |
0.301 |
0.327 |
0.379 |
0.412 |
Chris Bosio |
1987 |
0.266 |
0.290 |
0.422 |
0.406 |
John Burkett |
1998 |
0.254 |
0.347 |
0.391 |
0.509 |
Joe Oeschger |
1923 |
0.303 |
0.377 |
0.372 |
0.498 |
Bert Blyleven |
1988 |
0.259 |
0.343 |
0.388 |
0.497 |
Ernie Wingard |
1927 |
0.285 |
0.355 |
0.393 |
0.500 |
Bobo Newsom |
1942 |
0.243 |
0.292 |
0.325 |
0.409 |
Ricky Nolasco |
2009 |
0.223 |
0.317 |
0.351 |
0.562 |
Except for Caster, all of these guys did much worse in with ROB. Bosio had a lower SLG with ROB, but his ROB OPS was .753 vs. .731 with NONE on.
Table 6 shows their team's DER along with the league DER.
Table 6
Name |
Season |
Team DER |
Lg. AVG |
Jack Knott |
1936 |
0.657 |
0.676 |
George Caster |
1940 |
0.680 |
0.691 |
Hub Pruett |
1927 |
0.663 |
0.687 |
Chris Bosio |
1987 |
0.679 |
0.697 |
John Burkett |
1998 |
0.668 |
0.686 |
Joe Oeschger |
1923 |
0.668 |
0.681 |
Bert Blyleven |
1988 |
0.699 |
0.702 |
Ernie Wingard |
1927 |
0.666 |
0.684 |
Bobo Newsom |
1942 |
0.676 |
0.706 |
Ricky Nolasco |
2009 |
0.686 |
0.692 |
The team DER for these guys was generally low. It was just a bit low for Caster. But it still is surprising that given his AVG & SLG, he had such a high ERA.
Now for Glavine, Buhl and Walters. Table 7 shows their stats for the years they qualified.
Table 7
Name |
Season |
ERA |
FIP |
FIP - ERA |
Bob Buhl |
1957 |
2.74 |
3.95 |
1.21 |
Bob Buhl |
1959 |
2.86 |
3.88 |
1.02 |
Bob Buhl |
1960 |
3.09 |
4.1 |
1.01 |
Bucky Walters |
1939 |
2.29 |
3.81 |
1.52 |
Bucky Walters |
1940 |
2.48 |
3.84 |
1.36 |
Bucky Walters |
1944 |
2.4 |
3.41 |
1.01 |
Tom Glavine |
1997 |
2.96 |
3.96 |
1 |
Tom Glavine |
1998 |
2.47 |
3.5 |
1.03 |
Tom Glavine |
2001 |
3.57 |
4.77 |
1.2 |
Tom Glavine |
2002 |
2.96 |
4.2 |
1.24 |
Table 8 shows the AVG & SLG for these 3 guys
Table 8
Name |
Season |
None AVG |
ROB AVG |
None SLG |
ROB SLG |
Bob Buhl |
1957 |
0.267 |
0.213 |
0.369 |
0.296 |
Bob Buhl |
1959 |
0.248 |
0.236 |
0.367 |
0.359 |
Bob Buhl |
1960 |
0.242 |
0.211 |
0.416 |
0.271 |
Bucky Walters |
1939 |
0.217 |
0.224 |
0.318 |
0.325 |
Bucky Walters |
1940 |
0.220 |
0.220 |
0.316 |
0.329 |
Bucky Walters |
1944 |
0.210 |
0.231 |
0.263 |
0.315 |
Tom Glavine |
1997 |
0.240 |
0.204 |
0.340 |
0.322 |
Tom Glavine |
1998 |
0.245 |
0.228 |
0.348 |
0.291 |
Tom Glavine |
2001 |
0.277 |
0.236 |
0.420 |
0.347 |
Tom Glavine |
2002 |
0.281 |
0.206 |
0.470 |
0.264 |
For Buhl & Glavine we can see that they did much better with ROB. But not Walters. So a surprise there but the next table shows he had good defense behind him, although it does not seem like it would make that much difference.
Table 9 shows the DER for these 3 guys.
Table 9
Name |
Season |
Team DER |
Lg. AVG |
Bob Buhl |
1957 |
0.717 |
0.706 |
Bob Buhl |
1959 |
0.703 |
0.701 |
Bob Buhl |
1960 |
0.709 |
0.703 |
Bucky Walters |
1939 |
0.708 |
0.695 |
Bucky Walters |
1940 |
0.730 |
0.701 |
Bucky Walters |
1944 |
0.731 |
0.707 |
Tom Glavine |
1997 |
0.700 |
0.688 |
Tom Glavine |
1998 |
0.700 |
0.689 |
Tom Glavine |
2001 |
0.702 |
0.693 |
Tom Glavine |
2002 |
0.712 |
0.695 |
For his entire career, Glavine had a .256 AVG and .384 SLG with NONE on and a .260 AVG and .369 SLG with ROB. I expected to see bigger differences and that his AVG with ROB would be lower.
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