Wednesday, June 25, 2014

Trout Might Be Second Greatest Young Hitter Ever

The table below shows the OPS+ leaders up through age 22 for guys with 1000+ PAs.



Rk
Player
OPS+
PA
From
To
1
Ted Williams
182
1942
1939
1941
2
Mike Trout
169
1813
2011
2014
3
Stan Musial
166
1285
1941
1943
4
Ty Cobb
163
2486
1905
1909
5
Jimmie Foxx
159
1976
1925
1930
6
Albert Pujols
154
1351
2001
2002
7
Eddie Mathews
153
1874
1952
1954
8
Rogers Hornsby
150
1665
1915
1918
9
Tris Speaker
150
1359
1907
1910
10
Eddie Collins
150
1066
1906
1909
11
Mickey Mantle
148
2201
1951
1954
12
Joe DiMaggio
147
1361
1936
1937
13
Mel Ott
147
2644
1926
1931

If we go up to age 23, Trout is 4th (or tied for 5th, Musial also gets 169). Williams has 190, Pete Browning has 188 and Cobb has 171. But Browning still only had 1137 PAs.

I estimate that even if Trout has an OPS+ of just 60 the rest of this season, he would still be at 149 or in the top 10. If he can do 158 the rest of the way, he will still be at 167 (he is at 183 so far this year). So he would still be in 2nd place. This is extremely outstanding company that he is in.

For wRC+ that is listed at Fangraphs, he still does very well on the list up through age 22.Fangraphs has Jackson being born in 1889 while Baseball Reference has 1887


Joe Jackson 181
Ted Williams 177
Stan Musial 170
Mike Trout 166
Jimmie Foxx 160
Ty Cobb 159
Albert Pujols 154
Eddie Collins 151
Eddie Mathews 150
Mickey Mantle 149
Tris Speaker 149
Mel Ott 147
Rogers Hornsby 146
Joe DiMaggio 144

2 comments:

Anonymous said...

Where does Kaline rank?

Cyril Morong said...

36th. But he started at 18 and did not start doing well until 20. There is another list after this first one that has it for ages 20-22. Kaline is 19th on that one

Ted Williams 182
Mike Trout 169
Stan Musial 166
Ty Cobb 163
Sam Crawford 160
Jimmie Foxx 159
Albert Pujols 154
Eddie Mathews 153
Eddie Collins 150
Rogers Hornsby 150
Tris Speaker 150
Mickey Mantle 148
Joe DiMaggio 147
Mel Ott 147
Sherry Magee 141
Curt Blefary 140
Giancarlo Stanton 140
Ken Griffey 138
Arky Vaughan 137
Ross Youngs 136
Hank Aaron 134
Miguel Cabrera 133
Alex Rodriguez 132
Cesar Cedeno 132
Frank Robinson 132
Tony Conigliaro 132
Boog Powell 131
Eddie Murray 131
Stuffy McInnis 131
Darryl Strawberry 130
Orlando Cepeda 130
Bob Horner 129
Joe Morgan 128
Larry Doyle 128
Rickey Henderson 128
Al Kaline 127******
Joe Medwick 127
Vern Stephens 127
Ben Chapman 126
Cal Ripken 126
Rick Monday 126
Bryce Harper 125
Hal Trosky 125
Johnny Bench 125
Richie Hebner 125
Greg Luzinski 124
Jack Clark 124
Vada Pinson 124
Juan Gonzalez 123
Jim Fregosi 122
Del Ennis 120
Dick Hoblitzell 120
Eddie Murphy 120

**************Age 20-22

Ted Williams 182
Ty Cobb 176
Mike Trout 175
Stan Musial 166
Jimmie Foxx 162
Sam Crawford 160
Mickey Mantle 156
Mel Ott 156
Albert Pujols 154
Eddie Mathews 153
Rogers Hornsby 153
Tris Speaker 152
Eddie Collins 152
Joe DiMaggio 147
Ken Griffey 146
Sherry Magee 145
Giancarlo Stanton 140
Curt Blefary 140
Al Kaline 140
Alex Rodriguez 139