Something does not make sense to me and maybe I am doing it wrong or looking at something the wrong way.
Pedro Martinez has an 11.7 pitching WAR in the year 2000 while Bob Gibson has 11.2 in 1968. Martinez has a WaaWL% of .834 and Gibson has .754. It looks like that is the winning pct they would each have in the games they pitch if they were added to an otherwise average team. Gibson's lead in IP was 304-217.
If we divide their IP by 9, here is how many games they each had followed by their wins using the above percentages
Martinez 24.11, 20.11 (20.11 = .834*24.11)
Gibson 33.89, 25.55 (25.55 = .754*33.89)
Now if we subtract their WAR from these wins, here is how many games the replacement pitcher would win
Martinez 8.41
Gibson 14.35
But Gibson had 33.89 games and Martinez had 24.11. The Martinez replacement has a winning pct of .349 (8.41/24.11). The Gibson replacement has .424 (14.35/33.89). So it seems like Martinez is getting compared to a replacement with a much lower winning percentage. Am I doing something wrong or not understanding WAR correctly? Or is it supposed to work out like this?
Gibson's page at Baseball Reference
Martinez's page at Baseball Reference
Wednesday, August 21, 2013
Sunday, August 18, 2013
Why Has Mike Trout Gotten So Many Walks Lately?
It is 26 in his last 20 games (and it was 26 in 19 games but he got no walks today). I am curious if anyone has a reason. He had 51 BBs in his first 102 games this year and had 67 in 139 games in 2012. And another question: is a walk to Trout more valuable than average due to his speed?
How Has Miguel Cabrera Been Hitting In Inter-League Games Since 2008?
First, here are his overall AVG-OBP-SLG from 2008-2013 (which includes games against both the AL and NL)
AVG .328
OBP .407
SLG .592
Now what he has done in inter-league games from 2008-2013, over 466 PAs
AVG .311
OBP .376
SLG .546
I used the Baseball Reference Play Index and called up his plate appearances against all the NL teams, including the Astros, so this includes how he has hit against them this year (in 34 PAs .379-.471-.759). So it seems like he has hit better against AL pitchers and that although it is not a huge difference, it is clearly noticeable. It is surprising because over this period the AL has been winning most of the inter-league games.
AVG .328
OBP .407
SLG .592
Now what he has done in inter-league games from 2008-2013, over 466 PAs
AVG .311
OBP .376
SLG .546
I used the Baseball Reference Play Index and called up his plate appearances against all the NL teams, including the Astros, so this includes how he has hit against them this year (in 34 PAs .379-.471-.759). So it seems like he has hit better against AL pitchers and that although it is not a huge difference, it is clearly noticeable. It is surprising because over this period the AL has been winning most of the inter-league games.
Miguel Cabrera Now Has 10 Straight Seasons Of 300+ Total Bases
I think he passed 300 yesterday. He is now tied with Musial for the 4th longest streak ever. It looks like Pujols will see his streak end.
Lou Gehrig 1926-38 13
Willie Mays 1954-66 13
Albert Pujols 2001-12 12
Stan Musial 1948-57 10
Miguel Cabrera 2004-13 10
Hank Aaron 1955-63 9
Jimmie Foxx 1932-39 8
Babe Ruth 1926-32 7
Joe DiMaggio 1936-42 7
Joe Medwick 1934-39 6
Billy Williams 1967-72 6
Manny Ramirez 1996-01 6
Jeff Bagwell 1996-01 6
Sammy Sosa 1997-02 6
Todd Helton 1999-04 6
Alex Rodriguez 2000-05 6
Lou Gehrig 1926-38 13
Willie Mays 1954-66 13
Albert Pujols 2001-12 12
Stan Musial 1948-57 10
Miguel Cabrera 2004-13 10
Hank Aaron 1955-63 9
Jimmie Foxx 1932-39 8
Babe Ruth 1926-32 7
Joe DiMaggio 1936-42 7
Joe Medwick 1934-39 6
Billy Williams 1967-72 6
Manny Ramirez 1996-01 6
Jeff Bagwell 1996-01 6
Sammy Sosa 1997-02 6
Todd Helton 1999-04 6
Alex Rodriguez 2000-05 6
Pitching To Contact
I don't think this is a good idea. Chris Moran of Fangraphs just posted a good article called The Folly of Pitching to Contact. He shows that contact pitchers generally get inferior results. I have done a couple of posts on this.
Can "Pitching To Contact" Lead To More Scoring?
Is "Pitching To Contact" Helping The Nationals?
Can "Pitching To Contact" Lead To More Scoring?
Is "Pitching To Contact" Helping The Nationals?
Friday, August 16, 2013
Players With 500+ Total Bases At Ages 20-21 Combined
Trout is high and still climbing. If gets 88 more (about the pace he is on, assuming he plays about every game left), he will be 3rd
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Rk
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Player
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TB
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From
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To
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1
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Ted Williams
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677
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1939
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1940
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2
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Alex Rodriguez
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670
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1996
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1997
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3
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Al Kaline
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648
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1955
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1956
|
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4
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Mel Ott
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647
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1929
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1930
|
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5
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Frank Robinson
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642
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1956
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1957
|
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6
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Vada Pinson
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638
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1959
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1960
|
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7
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Orlando Cepeda
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625
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1958
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1959
|
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8
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Eddie Mathews
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599
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1952
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1953
|
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9
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Mike Trout
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579
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2012
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2013
|
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10
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Ken Griffey
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576
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1990
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1991
|
|
11
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Buddy Lewis
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567
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1937
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1938
|
|
12
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Ty Cobb
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559
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1907
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1908
|
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13
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Cesar Cedeno
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543
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1971
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1972
|
|
14
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Jimmie Foxx
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542
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1928
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1929
|
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15
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Tony Conigliaro
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539
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1965
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1966
|
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16
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Hank Aaron
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534
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1954
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1955
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|
17
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Mickey Mantle
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520
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1952
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1953
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18
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Johnny Bench
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503
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1968
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1969
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Wednesday, August 7, 2013
Ranking The Best Players At Ages 20 & 21 Combined
Here are the top 10 in Fagraphs WAR for ages 20 & 21 combined. The first numbers games played. Trout has alot more WAR than anyone in alot fewer games
Mike Trout 250 17.3
Mel Ott 298 14.9
Rogers Hornsby 284 14.5
Alex Rodriguez 287 13.9
Ted Williams 293 13.8
Al Kaline 305 13.6
Ty Cobb 300 13.2
Jimmie Foxx 267 12.9
Frank Robinson 302 12.4
Ken Griffey Jr. 308 11.9
Now the same thing from Baseball Refernce. Trout seems like the greatest 20-21 year old ever. Willie Mays had 3.9 WAR (again Baseball Ref) at age 20 and at 21 spent most of the year in the Military. Not sure, but it looks like Ruth had 14.9 combined hitting and pitching at 20-21 (again Baseball Ref)
Mike Trout 250 16.9
Alex Rodriguez 287 14.9
Al Kaline 305 14.9
Rogers Hornsby 284 14.7
Mel Ott 298 13.8
Frank Robinson 302 13.4
Ted Williams 293 13
Ty Cobb 300 13
Jimmie Foxx 267 12.6
Ken Griffey 309 12.3
According to Bill James, Trout has 26 Win Shares so far this year. That is a pace to get about 38, the same total he had last year. So let's call this 76. Also according to James, these are all the position players with 30+ Win Shares at age 20 (that is the first number-the second is at age 21 and then the total of the two years)
Ty Cobb 41 + 36 = 77
A-Rod 34 + 22 = 56
Mickey Mantle 32 + 26 = 58
Ted Williams 32 + 30 = 62
Al Kaline 31 + 26 = 57
Mel Ott 31 + 28 = 59
Trout has 64 Win Shares combined at the two ages in just 250 games. My guess is that the other guys played more. Once this year is over, Trout will have played about 300 games over these two years. Cobb had exactly 300. Trout could be just about tied with Cobb and way ahead of everyone else.
Mike Trout 250 17.3
Mel Ott 298 14.9
Rogers Hornsby 284 14.5
Alex Rodriguez 287 13.9
Ted Williams 293 13.8
Al Kaline 305 13.6
Ty Cobb 300 13.2
Jimmie Foxx 267 12.9
Frank Robinson 302 12.4
Ken Griffey Jr. 308 11.9
Now the same thing from Baseball Refernce. Trout seems like the greatest 20-21 year old ever. Willie Mays had 3.9 WAR (again Baseball Ref) at age 20 and at 21 spent most of the year in the Military. Not sure, but it looks like Ruth had 14.9 combined hitting and pitching at 20-21 (again Baseball Ref)
Mike Trout 250 16.9
Alex Rodriguez 287 14.9
Al Kaline 305 14.9
Rogers Hornsby 284 14.7
Mel Ott 298 13.8
Frank Robinson 302 13.4
Ted Williams 293 13
Ty Cobb 300 13
Jimmie Foxx 267 12.6
Ken Griffey 309 12.3
According to Bill James, Trout has 26 Win Shares so far this year. That is a pace to get about 38, the same total he had last year. So let's call this 76. Also according to James, these are all the position players with 30+ Win Shares at age 20 (that is the first number-the second is at age 21 and then the total of the two years)
Ty Cobb 41 + 36 = 77
A-Rod 34 + 22 = 56
Mickey Mantle 32 + 26 = 58
Ted Williams 32 + 30 = 62
Al Kaline 31 + 26 = 57
Mel Ott 31 + 28 = 59
Trout has 64 Win Shares combined at the two ages in just 250 games. My guess is that the other guys played more. Once this year is over, Trout will have played about 300 games over these two years. Cobb had exactly 300. Trout could be just about tied with Cobb and way ahead of everyone else.
Is Yasiel Puig The Best 22 Year Old Since Ted Williams In 1941?
I found all the 22 year old guys with 200+ PAs and at at least .1 WAR. Then I ranked them by WAR/PA. Here is the top 25. Of course, there are still about 45-50 games left, but this is still impressive.
Rk
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Player
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PA
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WAR
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Year
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WAR/PA
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1
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Ross Barnes
|
239
|
4.3
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1872
|
0.01799
|
2
|
Ted Williams
|
606
|
10.6
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1941
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0.01749
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3
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Yasiel Puig
|
234
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3.6
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2013
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0.01538
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4
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Ty Cobb
|
651
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9.8
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1909
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0.01505
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5
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Eddie Collins
|
660
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9.7
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1909
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0.01470
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6
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Stan Musial
|
700
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9.4
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1943
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0.01343
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7
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Rickey Henderson
|
493
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6.6
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1981
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0.01339
|
8
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Jim Fregosi
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591
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7.9
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1964
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0.01337
|
9
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Eddie Mathews
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600
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7.8
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1954
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0.01300
|
10
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Cesar Cedeno
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576
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7.4
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1973
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0.01285
|
11
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Davy Force
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227
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2.9
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1872
|
0.01278
|
12
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Tris Speaker
|
608
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7.7
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1910
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0.01266
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13
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Dick Allen
|
709
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8.8
|
1964
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0.01241
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14
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Pete Reiser
|
601
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7.4
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1941
|
0.01231
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15
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Sherry Magee
|
568
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6.9
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1907
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0.01215
|
16
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Joe Battin
|
289
|
3.5
|
1876
|
0.01211
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17
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Joe DiMaggio
|
692
|
8.2
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1937
|
0.01185
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18
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Rogers Hornsby
|
466
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5.4
|
1918
|
0.01159
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19
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Vada Pinson
|
660
|
7.6
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1961
|
0.01152
|
20
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Alex Rodriguez
|
748
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8.5
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1998
|
0.01136
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21
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John McGraw
|
459
|
5.2
|
1895
|
0.01133
|
22
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Cal Ripken
|
726
|
8.2
|
1983
|
0.01129
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23
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Boog Powell
|
506
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5.7
|
1964
|
0.01126
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24
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Bob Caruthers
|
382
|
4.3
|
1886
|
0.01126
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25
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Johnny Bench
|
671
|
7.5
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1970
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0.01118
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