Monday, October 21, 2024

Teams that without a World Series appearance in 15+ years

Since there are 15 teams in each league, we could say that they are all over due.

The first table has the relevant data. There are 8 teams that we could say are doubly over due since their droughts are 30+ years.

The second table has some additional data. 9 of the 13 teams have gone 15+ years without an appearance in the LCS. Only two of the teams, the Angels and A's, have had a regular season winning% of .500 or higher during their drought.

The total number of years of drought for these teams collectively is 413. They have a total of 20 LCS appearances during that time, which is less than 1 every 20 years.

Team

Years Without a World Series Appearance

Last World Series Appearance

Mariners

48

Never

Pirates

45

1979

Brewers

42

1982

Orioles

41

1983

A's

34

1990

Reds

34

1990

Twins

33

1991

Blue Jays

31

1993

Padres

26

1998

Angels

22

2002

Marlins

21

2003

White Sox

19

2005

Rockies

17

2007

 

Team

Regular Season Winning% During Drought

LCS Appearances During Drought

Last LCS Appearance

Mariners

0.477

3

2001

Pirates

0.464

3

1992

Brewers

0.492

2

2018

Orioles

0.471

3

2014

A's

0.506

2

2006

Reds

0.483

1

1995

Twins

0.489

1

2002

Blue Jays

0.496

2

2016

Padres

0.477

1

2022

Angels

0.514

2

2009

Marlins

0.457

0

2003

White Sox

0.465

0

2005

Rockies

0.455

0

2007

Update Oct. 29:

I came up with a probability of about .21 that 5 teams in 15 years will not make it to the World Series.

A math professor I know gave me a combination formula that said there were 3003 ways this could happen (altho he said he was not sure if it was right).

.645^10 = .0124
 
(.645 is the probability that a team goes to the series at least once in the 15 year period)

.355^5  = .00566

(.355 is the probability that a team goes to the series zero times in the 15 year period)

Then .0124*.00566 = .00007

Then .00007*3003 = .21

There might be a problem with independence. If one team is not making the series, that might be raising the odds for everyone else. But I don't know if this is an issue or how much it would matter.

One thing to remember is that there are teams that have gone more than 15 years (and in some cases alot more years). So that would make what we have seen less likely that .21. And what we have is 13 between the two leagues or 6.5 per team.

The probability I got for 6 teams is .194 and for 7 teams it is .137. The average of that is .165 (but things might not be linear)

One other thing, I used Excel's random number generator and ran 10 15 year periods. The average number of teams not making it to the series each period was 5.5.

Update Oct. 30:

I calculated the probability of the droughts for each of the 13 teams. Those are in the table below.

Team

Prob

Mariners

0.0307

Pirates

0.0371

Brewers

0.0548

Orioles

0.0246

A's

0.0861

Reds

0.0962

Twins

0.0927

Blue Jays

0.1074

Padres

0.1763

Angels

0.2083

Marlins

0.2434

White Sox

0.2598

Rockies

0.3151

I took into account how many teams were in the league for the various years in each case.

For the Mariners, for example, there were 14 teams in the AL from 1977-2012. In each of those years, the probability that the Mariners don't make it to the series is 13/14 = .929. Then the probability that they don't make it any of those 36 years is .929^36 = .0706.

From 2013-2024, the AL had 15 teams. In each of those years, the probability that the Mariners don't make it to the series is 14/15 = .933. Then the probability that they don't make it any of those 12 years is .933^12 = .4351.

Combining those two cases gives us the probability that the Mariners don't make the series in any year from 1977-2024:

.0706*.4351 = .0307.

Some of the probabilities in the table are pretty low. The teams with the shorter droughts from recent years have higher probabilities. Again, independence is an issue. If one of these teams is not going to the series, it raises the probability for another team (at least in its own league). So the numbers could be a bit higher.  

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