tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-608528753722196209.post3290692631593862907..comments2024-01-26T13:08:26.506-08:00Comments on Cybermetrics: Was Ron Santo The Best Player In the National League From 1964-68?Cyril Moronghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07148864847009186694noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-608528753722196209.post-55987904130652769002010-01-01T13:25:53.516-08:002010-01-01T13:25:53.516-08:00Santo got alot more support in the MVP voting than...Santo got alot more support in the MVP voting than Williams or Banks did in 1969<br /><br />http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/awards_1969.shtml#NLmvpCyril Moronghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07148864847009186694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-608528753722196209.post-46376089632104917762010-01-01T13:22:17.566-08:002010-01-01T13:22:17.566-08:00That is a good point. It is intersting to see how ...That is a good point. It is intersting to see how these guys progressed in the voting<br /><br />Williams:<br />1982 BBWAA (23.4%) <br />1983 BBWAA (40.9%) <br />1984 BBWAA (50.1%) <br />1985 BBWAA (63.8%) <br />1986 BBWAA (74.1%) <br />1987 BBWAA (85.7%) <br /><br />Banks:<br />1977 BBWAA (83.8%) <br /><br />Jenkins:<br />1989 BBWAA (52.3%) <br />1990 BBWAA (66.7%) <br />1991 BBWAA (75.4%) <br /><br />The writers did not think too much about Banks or Jenkins. But Williams started low and jus kept gaining steam. I wonder how unusual that is.Cyril Moronghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07148864847009186694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-608528753722196209.post-66391773863074817452010-01-01T13:17:21.515-08:002010-01-01T13:17:21.515-08:00Good point... That brings up a third irrational re...Good point... That brings up a third irrational reason: There were already three Hall of Fame players on that team (Banks, Williams, Jenkins), and while Banks was fading fast... so the idea that any team could be that star-crossed with four HOFers, in reverse, cancels him out...Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17101080979640044074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-608528753722196209.post-68398023408129762902010-01-01T13:08:16.675-08:002010-01-01T13:08:16.675-08:00Doug
Thanks for the compliment and thanks for dro...Doug<br /><br />Thanks for the compliment and thanks for dropping by. I think the stats could be a problem. But I am not sure about the 1969 collapse. Billy Williams got in and he was on that same team. I really don't know. But playing in a World Series helps and that was the Cubs big chance.<br /><br />CyCyril Moronghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07148864847009186694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-608528753722196209.post-6004066534573761932010-01-01T12:30:17.732-08:002010-01-01T12:30:17.732-08:00Fine post, Cyril.
There seem to me to be only two...Fine post, Cyril.<br /><br />There seem to me to be only two rational reasons for Santo being snubbed. The first is he played in an era when offense was down, so his statistics (especially batting average) aren't eye-popping until you adjust for that. The second is he made the fatal mistake of playing for The Wrong Team in The Wrong Season.<br /><br />So, how much is Santo's reputation scarred by the 1969 Cub collapse?Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17101080979640044074noreply@blogger.com