Wednesday, June 25, 2014

Trout Might Be Second Greatest Young Hitter Ever

The table below shows the OPS+ leaders up through age 22 for guys with 1000+ PAs.



Rk
Player
OPS+
PA
From
To
1
Ted Williams
182
1942
1939
1941
2
Mike Trout
169
1813
2011
2014
3
Stan Musial
166
1285
1941
1943
4
Ty Cobb
163
2486
1905
1909
5
Jimmie Foxx
159
1976
1925
1930
6
Albert Pujols
154
1351
2001
2002
7
Eddie Mathews
153
1874
1952
1954
8
Rogers Hornsby
150
1665
1915
1918
9
Tris Speaker
150
1359
1907
1910
10
Eddie Collins
150
1066
1906
1909
11
Mickey Mantle
148
2201
1951
1954
12
Joe DiMaggio
147
1361
1936
1937
13
Mel Ott
147
2644
1926
1931

If we go up to age 23, Trout is 4th (or tied for 5th, Musial also gets 169). Williams has 190, Pete Browning has 188 and Cobb has 171. But Browning still only had 1137 PAs.

I estimate that even if Trout has an OPS+ of just 60 the rest of this season, he would still be at 149 or in the top 10. If he can do 158 the rest of the way, he will still be at 167 (he is at 183 so far this year). So he would still be in 2nd place. This is extremely outstanding company that he is in.

For wRC+ that is listed at Fangraphs, he still does very well on the list up through age 22.Fangraphs has Jackson being born in 1889 while Baseball Reference has 1887


Joe Jackson 181
Ted Williams 177
Stan Musial 170
Mike Trout 166
Jimmie Foxx 160
Ty Cobb 159
Albert Pujols 154
Eddie Collins 151
Eddie Mathews 150
Mickey Mantle 149
Tris Speaker 149
Mel Ott 147
Rogers Hornsby 146
Joe DiMaggio 144

2 comments:

  1. Where does Kaline rank?

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  2. 36th. But he started at 18 and did not start doing well until 20. There is another list after this first one that has it for ages 20-22. Kaline is 19th on that one

    Ted Williams 182
    Mike Trout 169
    Stan Musial 166
    Ty Cobb 163
    Sam Crawford 160
    Jimmie Foxx 159
    Albert Pujols 154
    Eddie Mathews 153
    Eddie Collins 150
    Rogers Hornsby 150
    Tris Speaker 150
    Mickey Mantle 148
    Joe DiMaggio 147
    Mel Ott 147
    Sherry Magee 141
    Curt Blefary 140
    Giancarlo Stanton 140
    Ken Griffey 138
    Arky Vaughan 137
    Ross Youngs 136
    Hank Aaron 134
    Miguel Cabrera 133
    Alex Rodriguez 132
    Cesar Cedeno 132
    Frank Robinson 132
    Tony Conigliaro 132
    Boog Powell 131
    Eddie Murray 131
    Stuffy McInnis 131
    Darryl Strawberry 130
    Orlando Cepeda 130
    Bob Horner 129
    Joe Morgan 128
    Larry Doyle 128
    Rickey Henderson 128
    Al Kaline 127******
    Joe Medwick 127
    Vern Stephens 127
    Ben Chapman 126
    Cal Ripken 126
    Rick Monday 126
    Bryce Harper 125
    Hal Trosky 125
    Johnny Bench 125
    Richie Hebner 125
    Greg Luzinski 124
    Jack Clark 124
    Vada Pinson 124
    Juan Gonzalez 123
    Jim Fregosi 122
    Del Ennis 120
    Dick Hoblitzell 120
    Eddie Murphy 120

    **************Age 20-22

    Ted Williams 182
    Ty Cobb 176
    Mike Trout 175
    Stan Musial 166
    Jimmie Foxx 162
    Sam Crawford 160
    Mickey Mantle 156
    Mel Ott 156
    Albert Pujols 154
    Eddie Mathews 153
    Rogers Hornsby 153
    Tris Speaker 152
    Eddie Collins 152
    Joe DiMaggio 147
    Ken Griffey 146
    Sherry Magee 145
    Giancarlo Stanton 140
    Curt Blefary 140
    Al Kaline 140
    Alex Rodriguez 139

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